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A Sellers’ Market!?!

September 27, 2008 · Leave a Comment

“ECONOMY HAS HEADS SPINNING” my morning paper screamed at me a few days back before I’d even picked it up off the driveway. Stocks tanking, huge firms failing or being bailed out, DataQuick medians show yet another home price drop, and now the “$700 trillion dollar Federal Bailout.”

And we decide now’s the time to tell you it’s a sellers’ market?

Sort of.

What’s going on now:

You see, what we try to do here, as our masthead says, is give you “real estate news and perspectives from the front lines.” What we and our colleagues see going on right now at open houses and with buyers and sellers in Southern California.

So we’re 3 months ahead of DataQuick, whose monthly median closing price stats just reported August closings on sales that were negotiated mostly in June. We’re 5 – 6 months ahead of Case-Schiller, who averages 3 months of closings using their unique “matched pairs” approach and then delays a month to release.

So let me tell you what’s actually happening over the past 2 weeks:

  • Showings are up significantly at all of our listings priced below $500,000, and up modestly on our “move-up” inventory.
  • That offer I made a few weeks ago that I told you about (See “Who should buy between now and Christmas?“): Outbid. Swamped with competing offers. My “all cash, close in 10 days, as is” offer didn’t even get a phone call back!
  • Yesterday I surveyed several other agents I’ve known for years. Every one of them said buyer activity was up dramatically over the last few weeks.
  • Even my partner, Blair, & his wife are about to make an offer.

Why?

Pretty simple, actually. Summer just ended, prices have been coming down, and–oh, yeah–mortgage rates just plummeted:

  • August is almost always one of the slowest months of the year, but things generally pick up in September and October before slowing again as the holidays approach.
  • Foreclosures and pre-foreclosure “short sales” have been forcing prices down all year. Data Quick’s August median for OC was back to the level of November 2003! Vacation over, kids back in school, & buyers are noticing that neighborhood they couldn’t afford last year is now within their reach.
  • When the U.S. Government (that’s you & me, in case you didn’t notice) basically took over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, confidence returned to the mortgage markets and rates dropped around a full point, with 30 year fixed loans at 5.5%! Rates have ticked up a bit since then, but are still near record lows.

What’s it mean?

Good question. Is it a seasonal blip or did we just pass the bottom, at least for starter homes in built-out areas? Well, part of it is seasonal, but that’s not the whole story. What happens next will largely be determined by the answer to five key questions:

  1. What will the economy do?
  2. What will interest rates do?
  3. What will mortgage rates do?
  4. Are foreclosures peaking?
  5. Have prices corrected enough?

The first two will tend to counter-balance each other. If the economy continues it’s sharp declines, both the fed and investors will combine to drop interest rates, both short and long term.

As for mortgage rates, with the feds supporting the market, we know the margin, or mark-up, for mortgages will stay at the more normal levels we’ve seen over the past few weeks. One of the biggest challenges for housing has just been met. Federal intervention is having some positive results for home sellers and buyers, as we’ve been predicting all year.

Foreclosures may be the key here. In California it takes about 4 months to foreclose on a home from filing the initial Notice of Default through the Trustee’s Sale. Longer if the owner files bankruptcy. It takes another 1 -3 months to get the occupant out and the home on the market. We know that the banks have been taking back record numbers of homes, assuring a continued influx of foreclosed homes hitting the market through year’s end.

We can also check on homes entering the foreclosure process (we give you two links for that under “Useful Links” in the column to the right, but we prefer the data in the “Preforeclosure” link.) A month ago, it looked like homes entering foreclosure were peaking, but recently released August stats are up for both Orange and Los Angeles Counties. Government relief for foreclosures is about to kick in next month, and the shakiest borrowers have already lost their homes. On the other hand, a sinking economy combined with coming payment “resets” (increases) on many adjustables may put more homeowners in jeopardy. This one may be “too close to call,” but I think by mid spring of 2008 the worst of the foreclosure market will be behind us.

Which brings us to question # 5. You’ll get plenty of debate on this, but the multiple bids on properly priced REOs make it pretty obvious to me that some prices have, indeed corrected enough, provided interest rates don’t rise dramatically & the economy doesn’t tank.

What prices have corrected enough? The prices that bring competitive bids: The fire-sale prices the lenders are now offering on starter single family homes in built-out markets. Pretty much what we said three weeks ago, except it’s happening now, not early next year.

Is this the bottom?

For SFRs in the coastal plane of OC & L.A. Counties, maybe so, maybe this December, maybe later. It largely depends on the economy, interest rates, and when foreclosures peak. Stay tuned, & we’ll keep you posted on what we’re seeing here on the front lines of So Cal Real estate.

Our 2-hour, $5 October Buyer Seminar:

We actually scheduled a two hour buyers seminar with the city of Lakewood’s Community Services Department several months ago. It’s open to everyone, not just Lakewood residents. It’s from 9 – 11 a.m. on Saturday, October11 at Lakewood’s Mayfair Park (Clark and South St.). We designed this to help buyers make the most of this fall and winter’s unusual buying opportunites. Class size is limited to allow interaction. Registration & more details here. It’s just $5, & we’re not selling  cds or books.  We’re both former teachers, & we enjoy a chance to discuss real estate in a “classroom” setting.

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A little perspective

April 14, 2008 · 1 Comment

Woke up this morning to one of those stories that makes you thankful for what you have. Even if it is going down in value.

Worth a read:

“Pride in A Paycheck”

There’s more to life than money. Way more.

Categories: For Sellers · Real Estate 101 · perspective
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A Change in Our Projections?

April 4, 2008 · 2 Comments

April 10 update: In the week since writing this post, the roller coaster ride of hopeful and negative news has continued unabated.

One thing that concerns us is this week’s release of California’s Foreclosure stats for March, however (see “So Cal Defaults Up Again & What it Means”). has got us reconsidering. But there are a couple hopeful possibilities we’re also keeping our eyes on. We’re watching to see what Congress might do next, and keeping another eye on the ever-surprising Fed.

So stay tuned for further developments. In the meantime, we still think this is as accurate a description of where we’re at & where we’re going as we can write. For now.

We concluded our last post (“Two Problems with DataQuick’s Median Prices,” with our observation that the actual drop in So Cal home values from top to current bottom is about 25 – 30% (less in higher end areas, more in condos, starter areas, and areas with lots of new construction).

The obvious question is, “How Much More Should So Cal Prices Have to Correct?”

25 – 30% may well be about the right amount of correcting–nobody knows for sure, as we keep saying (see “How Low will Prices Go?“).

But the market will almost certainly overcorrect, especially with all the current negativity, all the foreclosures still in process, and the difficulties getting mortgages continuing.

Ben Bernanke, the Fed Chairman, thinks governmental actions already in place will begin to kick in later this year, and things will slowly begin improving from there. He hopes, but he’s not sure. (See “Bernanke predicts bottom later this year” for excerpts from his Wednesday testimony with our English “translation”/summaries.) Remember, however, that part of his job seems to be keeping an optimistic spin going.

But UC San Diego’s Nobel Prize winning economist, Clive Granger, thinks the U.S. economy has already been in a recession for about four months. He expects the current recession to last an additional 2-6 months, depending on what occurs in the housing and financial markets. Like Bernanke, that puts the bottom later this year.

Slightly more pessimistic is Freddie Mac Chief Economist Frank Nothaft. (He was also the panelist from last October’s CAR Expo who formed the basis for our belief that nobody knows what will happen next with his remarks that “we’re in uncharted territory.”) (Obviously, that belief hasn’t stopped us from making our best guesses at what’s next.)

Maybe Dr. Nothaft now thinks the picture’s becoming a bit clearer. Last week he told a lunch audience that he expects that life should begin to return to the housing sector late this year or early next but says prices may not recover significantly until 2010.

Then this morning DataQuick released figures for OC showing prices were still dropping but sales volume is continuing to rise, as we’ve been predicting (see the Register’s R.E. blog for details). (Also bear in mind what we said yesterday about DataQuick’s numbers being several months behind, among other things.

Then this afternoon the Register blog put up another post quoting a South OC Realtor who does a lot of number crunching saying what we basically said a month ago, that activity’s picking up.

Now remember what we said about those two So Cal real estate market cycles on Wednesday. Annual cycle: up in the spring, down in the fall. Add in these predictions that the economic cycle may be nearing a bottom, and what do you get? Could it be we’ll hit bottom this winter, not a year later as we had been thinking?

Maybe, but what about today’s increase in unemployment to 5.1%, with economists particularly worried because the drop was so broadspread, no longer limited to housing and construction.

This morning I spoke with one broker I’ve known for 30 years about activity in his office. Yeah, he said, sales (opening of escrows) were up in February, but then they dropped a bit in March, and the last few weeks have been especially slow. The March slowdown he attributed to actual competition for houses, citing one agent who had presented 8 offers for one buyer who needed help with closing costs. There were enough competing offers and enough buyer activity that the sellers were no longer making those concessions.

The cause of the slowdown over the last two weeks , however, was harder to figure out. “Dave, there’s just so many cross currents,” he told me. “The market’s just in flux.”

That flux may mean that we’re nearing a bottom. Or it may mean the mini-upturn we saw in February and March is turning down.

Or it may just mean it’s still too early to tell what’s going on.

This post was intended to update our projections. So I looked up our most recent forecasting post, March 24’s “What’s Next for Southern California Housing.”

Here’s what we said in summary back then:

“We continue to expect a window of opportunity for sellers for the next several months, followed by opportunities for buyers through this winter. We still thing there’s a significant chance (20%?) of a major price collapse of an additional 15 – 25% , but there’s also a possibility that the worst is behind us.”

“Sorry the picture isn’t clearer, but we’d rather tell you the truth than make something. up

Looks like there’s not a whole lot to update, although there are some things I might tweak:

  • That window of opportunity for sellers may already be starting to close.
  • An additional price decline of 5% – 10% through this winter is probably the most likely scenario, but by no means a certainty.
  • There’s a significant possibility that the market will bottom this winter, but it’s still to early to really know.
  • There’s also evidence that real estate’s woes may spread through the economy and pull prices down much further, into a recession that might last for years.
  • Washington is becoming increasingly proactive, which could be good. . . or bad, depending on what specific steps are taken.
  • One thing hasn’t changed at all:

Sorry the picture isn’t clearer, but we’d rather tell you the truth than make something up.

What to do? Guess it’s time to again refer to our December 1 post, “What to do when nobody knows what’s next.”

Sorry the picture isn’t clearer, but we’d rather tell you the truth than make something up.

We’d love to hear your thoughts, especially what you see happening in your corner of So Cal.

April 10 note: As of this morning, we’re beginning to think the bottom’s probably at least 20 months off, rather than the 8 we’ve been hoping for recently. Those foreclosure stats we mentioned really have us concerned, but we may be overreacting to one item. Because you never know for sure what’s going to happen next!

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